White Sikh sect

Aren't these the fake Sikhs who defame Sikhism by performing Hindu rituals? See what Sikh scholar Bhai Kahan Singh ji Nabha has said;

[We do not accept the authority of. The Vedas, neither that of Simritis and Puranas. We worship neither Bhairva, nor Ganesha. We recognize neither Tithis nor Omens, nor days. Neither Rahu, Ketu, Shani, Shukar, Sun nor Moon. We do not believe a bit in Sandhya, Sutak, Caste, Varna, Jantar, Mantar, Fasting, Homa or Shradh. Disciples of the Tenth Master, Khalsa Panth is distinct. Really ignorant is he who calls Khalsa as Hindu.]

http://wesikhsnothindus.blogspot.com/

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Join Gurmukh, Guru Dev, Guru Singh, and Snatam kaur for a Kundalini Yoga Festival on 11/11/11 in Rishikesh, India ~ a 7-day celebration of music and Kundalini Yoga on the holy banks of the Mother Ganga.

How could you call these 3ho's followers as Sikhs who perform hawan and other Brahminical rituals for cheap publicity?

I was shocked this morning to see 3HOers have persuaded the Shepherd's Bush Gurdwara in London(the first Gurdwara established in UK) to host the "Great British Kundalini Yoga Festival". Please write these brothers and sisters and explain that as Sikhs we do not do such unSikh Like activities in the Gurdwara or put pictures of Yogis above Siri Guru Granth Sahib as in the pic.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Great-British-Kundalini-Yoga-Festival/278597621356

By GURSANT SINGH. (25-03-11).

Look at this man who had believe in Astrology and kundlini Yoga. Both are condemned in Sikhism. No Sikh Guru ever promoted and no martyr of Sikhs ever did Yoga. But this person called himself Khalsa-FAKE KHALSA.

A disciple of Yogi Harbhajan Singh, highly qualified but chose the easy way to earn by teaching Yoga to American Sikhs. They know, they can't teach their Yoga to Indian Sikhs because it is forbidden in Sikhism like idol worship and Sikhs in India do not practice Yoga. By teaching to western Sikhs they can earn dollars, so they preach there in western countries only.

Is this some 3HO Yogi Bhajan fire pooja they're doing at their "Winter Solstice" event? I found this at 3HO's flicker photo link, maybe somebody can fill us in on what they are doing? Whatever it is, It sure isn't part of Sikhism;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57024792@N05/5320491825/in/photostream/

IS THIS GURMAT PARCHAR IN GURU RAM DAS ASHRAM BY 3HO MEMBERS OR MANMAT PARCHAR..(Connecting Sikhi or spreading Aghori matt of Tantra Sadhna)?

Winter Solstice - HEALING RING OF THE TANTRA: 6:30 pm @ Guru Ram Das Ashram.

Heal the world, heal your friends and family, and heal yourself.

The true name of the timeless god is called as Waheguru in Sikhism. SATNAM WAHEGURU, means thy name Waheguru is true-is made MANTRA by these so called yogis whereas the true qualities of God are described in MOOL MANTRA or BASIC CREED in Guru Granth Sahib Ji as ....

IK ONKAR SATNAM KARTA PURAKH NIRBHAO NIRVAIR AKAL MOORAT AJUNI SAI BHANG GUR PARSAD !!

This is the Mool-Mantra or the basic creed of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Means “God is one, he is supreme, Eternal reality, Creator, Purusha, without fear, without rancour, timeless form, Unborn, Self-existent, realized through Divine Grace. ”Sayeth Naanak O, Searcher after Truth, meditate on the name. WAHEGURU, God the Boundless Divine Reality, the remover of the veil of ignorance from the human mind, who was true and self-existent before creation, was the through all the ages (yugas), is true now, and shall be true and self-existent for all times to come.

This picture is taken from Simran kaur Khalsa who is an activist and member of 3ho in New Mexico.

There are many sabads in gurbani to heal and cure but this practice of meditation is condemned by sikh Gurus so in the name of Akal Purakh Waheguru --- please stop this false approach of meditation which is against Sikh life.

This practice of meditation is accepted by yogis in Hindu religion but no Sikh Guru ever promoted it. Gurbani condemns it. If you people wish, i can give you many examples here on this wall too.

Just for healing and get cured, read the sabad-- Bhailo mahalla-5, Rog kawan ja rakhe aap !! tis jan hoye ne dukh santaap !!.

. This sabad can be copied from SGGS Ang no.1146.

Leslie Kaur Khalsa writes to Ajmer Singh Randhawa;

I am extremely disheartened by this thread, my dear brothers. Have you forgotten Guru Nanak's words about people being neither Hindus nor Muslims? He saw the Oneness of God--which God dwelled in all.

Why are you trying to cause a separation when we have been instructed to come together as Khalsa?

Your scrutiny of 3HO prevents you from seeing the miracle that God has performed: that an American girl like me, born in the mid-west (Ohio) would bow before the Siri Guru Granth Sahib, never having bowed to God before in this life-time.

You are visualizing ill-will where there is none, except whatever ugliness and disharmony your own words are creating. 3HO is an organization through which many people have learned of the teachings of the Gurus; it has brought light into the darkness.

I have never thought of myself as a part of 3HO even though it is, in fact, the organization through which my knowledge of Sikhism began. In the United States, the statutes require that religious groups jump through a series of legal hoops to function as non-profit organizations. You sound as if you may simply be uninformed about the way things work in the United States.

Ajmer Singh to Leslie :

Somewhere you gave good suggestions too. Who is an organization which preaches Sikhism in western countries? But they do not introduce the true Sikhism. If they practice Yoga-they may but they are not supposed to produce it in relations with Sikh religion. This act of there is anti-Sikh and needs to be condemned.

We have strong objection on their idol worship. You just visit to the website of Gursant Singh and see yourself. Idol worship is forbidden in Sikhsim and they do worship. Why?

Snatam kaur went to Haridwar and did Aarti . What message she gave to public ? Was it not that Sikhs are part of Hinduism? How could she do it? Was not she aware the Aarti in SGGS which was performed by Guru Nanak ji in Jagannath puri (Orissa). It was not according to Hindus but was sung in the temple by Guru Nanak. Guru ji also went to Haridwar and preached against the Hindu ritual of giving water to their Sun god?

Then how dared she to perform Aarti in full bana?

Pritpal Singh sent this note to Ajmer Singh Randhawa,

"Dear Singh Sahib Ajmer Singh Ji,

Let me give U a little tiny background about Sikh dharma in western Hemmisphere. Yogi Bhajan came to USA. Young people were going through the biggest struggle in this country like Sikh youth is going through in Punjab.

They were hippies engrossed in smoking dope, drinking liquor and engaging in awful sexual practices and living in very unhealthy life style. They were rebelling against their parents, society, religion and country. They were angry and desperately looking for a better life style. If you study it you will have sympathy with them because their religious leaders and parents had let them down. They were absolutely sick of hypocrisy within their own culture like we are going through. Many spiritual teachers came from India at the same time within a few years apart. Like Hare Krishna movement and Rajneesh movements were the biggest. There were many-many Indian Sikhs living in this country but no one could bring young Americans to come and study Sikh religion. Yogi Bhajan somehow started teaching yoga to get them out of their drug addictions because it was the best thing for them to get healthy and also there was a big movement taking birth about yoga in this country. So through yoga he introduced them to Nam Simran, kirtan, chanting and reading the scriptures.

He did the best he could and now this movement has been going on for close to 40 years.

You will be glad to know that Sikhism through American Sikhs is spreading all over Europe and South America. It may take them many-many years to become real khalsa but lots of people are at least learning about Sikhism from them.

Dr. Trilochan Singh talks about this very same misinterpretation of Gurbani by Yogi Bhajan and now 3HO:

http://www.facebook.com/l/b6fcf;gurmukhyoga.com/forum/index.php?mode=page&id=1
The learned writers of this article quote or rather misquote from the English translation of Guru Granth by Manmohan Singh, but the main source of their theories and knowledge about the Kundalini Yoga is The Sacred Eye of A Sikh and that Sikh ostensibly is Yogi Bhajan who has added as long inauthentic titles to his name as his holy robes. He is their only and indisputable authority. To a Writer like me who has spent the last thirty-five years of his life studying Sikh history, theology and mysticism at the feet of the most eminent exponents of Sikh theology and mysticism on the basis of all the published and unpublished works of the last four hundred years, this article was highly disturbing and full of shocking errors. This article further created in me deep interest to do thorough research work in all the written material produced by Yogi Bhajan about his mission of his own peculiar Yoga and his own cult of Sikhism.

My lectures on Sikh mysticism had attracted considerable attention, and daily invitations from various religious groups every evening left me little time to concentrate on writing. And yet so agonizing and shocking are the ingenious yoga fantasies, prophecies, distortions of Gurbani, and misquotations from Sikh scriptures, recorded in these Journals that I spent many-many sad days and sleepless nights brooding over the innocence and blissful ignorance of the Americans, who unfortunately have been accepting every odd brain wave of Yogi Bhajan as Gospel Truth. No matter what he says or writes, it sends vibrations and magnetic waves through their mind, body and soul, and according to their conviction every vibration stimulates their pituitary and pineal glands. To be frank, these 3HO writings have seriously hurt my conscience and sense of responsibility as a Writer and Historian, and disturbed my peace of mind.

I am extremely worried about the manner in which Yogi Bhajan teaches Sikhism to American young men and women whose sincerity, nobility of purpose, and rare passion for oriental wisdom and genuine mystical experiences is unquestionably unique. I do not care what fantastic interpretations of Kundalini Yoga he gives, the like of which I have never read in any Tantra text, nor known from any living Tantric scholar. I am not prepared to take seriously his newly invented Guru Yoga in which his pious and uncritical followers must concentrate on a particular picture of Yogi Bhajan, which practice is called mental beaming. And this meditation picture of Yogi Bhajan, according to Art authority of 3HO, is best prepared "with colored background cut to fit around Yogi ji's face. Although there are specific colors which can be used on given days of the week and for their different effects, the color orange, as in the Adi Shakti, is recommended." (For details see Chapter 2.) Nor is it my intention to question Yogi Bhajan, the only Maha-Tantric in the world, as to how did he become a Maha-Tantric and more so, the only Maha-Tantric in the world when he first claimed in the early copies of the Beads of Truth to be a disciple of Sant Virsa Singh of Delhi, an illiterate saint who calls himself a Sant and not a Tantric. What I am worried about is the serious damage Yogi Bhajan continues to do, in spite of the fact that he has attracted many zealous seekers of spiritual experience anxious to know the best that is in Sikhism, to understand Sikh mantras, Sikh symbols and many firmly established Sikh traditions. With very few reference books available to me during my three months of travels in the U.S.A. where it was not possible to find even the Vars of Bhai Gurdas in any Gurdwara, I have done my best to document everything mostly from memory. I have, however, taken care to record the correct views of Sikh theology, philosophy and mysticism, as depicted in Sikh scriptures and as explained by theologians and mystics of indisputable reputation, so that it may be clear to the readers, and more so to the followers of Yogi Bhajan that the Path of Tantra is the antithesis of the Path of Sikhism. In the end, I will comment on some of the fantastic claims of Yogi Bhajan, that he has been able to achieve what even Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth and last prophet of Sikhs, could not achieve.

Chapter II

Yoga Terminology in Sikh Scriptures

The learned Writers of the article, "The Secret Science of Yoga as Seen Through the Eyes of a Sikh," make a sweeping statement which is extremely misleading. They say, "It is also true that Yogic terminology and the objectives of Yogic practices was totally in accord with the realization which Guru Nanak was sharing during his life time." [Sikh Sansar, March 77 p 28) The mere fact that Guru Nanak has used the word 'yoga' a number of times and also some other words from other Hindu and Islamic systems, does not in the least indicate that the Sikh Gurus either subscribed to these systems or adopted them in any subtle or crude form in Sikhism.

"We find in Sikh scriptures such terms as Sahajya, Sunya, Turiya, Anhada Nirvana, Samadhi, Omkar, which had their origin in early Vedic literature and acquired their basic philosophic content in Upanishads and Mahabharata. These very terms underwent a dramatic trans valuation of values under Jainism, Buddhism, Shiva ism and Nathpanthi Yogi cults. Two thousand years after the death of Buddha the creative genius of Sikh Gurus redefined these terms; in the light of their divine experiences there was once more Transvaluation of values. Not only were the terms and concepts emerging from Hindu Buddhist traditions redefined by the Gurus in the light of their own philosophy and mystical experiences, but even such terms from Islamic tradition as namaz, kalma, ma'arfat, tariqat, haqiqat, sidaq, were redefined and given new meaning and content. Those who see these terms in the Sikh scriptures and rush to the conclusion that the Sikh Gurus borrowed them from older religions or creeds in their classical sense, express grave ignorance either of the Sikh doctrines or of the philosophic and religious system from which they are borrowed or of both."

Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini theorists go to the impossible and improper length to rationalize their own un-Sikhlike practices, haphazardly taken from Hindu systems, and oddly practiced in their ashrams, and project them as the real practices of the Khalsa. The article in question and several others which will be quoted in this booklet are a clear example of this conscious and deliberate distortion. The Sikh Gurus used three methods to extend their moral and spiritual affinity with other faiths and yet give distinctive philosophic contents to traditional themes and terms. This method was adopted by Buddha earlier. One of these methods was to tell the people, be such a Brahmin, be such a Yogi, be such a sannyasin.

Be Such a Brahmin

A true Brahmin is one who grasps Brahm;

Meditation on God and self-control are his daily routine; His religious observances are right conduct And an unfretting heart. He removes the sensual chains that bind the soul. Such a Brahmin deserves all praise and honor.

Guru Nanak, Slok Vadhik 16, p 141"

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"Yogi Bhajan used numerology to select the names for 3HO people according to the planets at the time of birth. This is completely against Sikh teachings. The Sikh Gurus condemned the occult and these Brahimn practices.

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Yogi Bhajan wore huge gemstones for their so called “yogic energy and power". Yogi Bhajan adorned himself with these yogic rings and precious gems for different days of the week. Yogi Bhajan covered up the fact that these days are represented by different Hindu deities and the practice of wearing these yogic rings is really only the Hindu idea of pacifying the various gods and goddesses. Not only this, Yogi Bhajan used astrology and numerology in choosing these yogic rings. Yogi Bhajan believed the gemstones had "energy affects" and influenced our destiny, thinking and actions.

Yogi Bhajan shown here on Sikhnet wearing a yogic ring for power
Yogi Bhajan’s wearing and promoting yogic rings is yet another Hindu practice camouflaged in the sheep’s clothing of "Aquarian or New Age spiritual thinking”. These things should not be practiced by Sikhs of the Guru. As Sikhs we should rely on the Guru alone for strength as Guru Arjan so beautifully states:

I have learnt the technique of true Yoga from the divine Guru. The True Guru has revealed this technique with the Light of the divine Word. Within my body He has revealed the Light that pervades all the regions of the earth. To this Light within me I bow and salute every moment. The initiation of the Guru are my Yogic rings and I fix my mind steadfastly on the One Absolute God.

(A. G. Guru Arjan, Gaudi, p 208)

The following is taken from "Sikhism and Tantric Yoga" by Dr. Trilochan Singh.

We quote Yogi Bhajan on Precious Stones and rings, which for him are his status symbol, and for possessing which he expends quite a lot of his energy and ingenuity. He says in Beads, Summer 1972, "Precious stones are not precious because the rich wear them and the poor do not. Rather, they are precious because when cut in the proper way they concentrate sun energy and can transmit to the individual through the skin. Hence most rings are worn on the ring finger. The quality of energy channeled by each stone differs and so does its effect on the individual. Stones also correspond to the planets and serve in mediating the scattered energy which comes from retrograding planets."

Yogi Bhajan has given the following comments on stones.

Ruby (Sun) concentrates the heart of the sun's rays.

Moonstone and Pearls (Moon) help balance out too much sun energy. They are commonly worn by Libra.

Diamond (Venus and practically everything) can concentrate miles of sun rays into one beam. Recently in Los Angeles someone was robbed of 100,000 worth of jewel within 72 hours.
Emerald (Mercury) has wonderful effect on the brain and is a cooling stone. Good luck for everyone. Coral (Mars) is for balancing positive and negative forces.

Topaz (Jupiter) is a good luck stone.

Blue Sapphire (Saturn) can give so much energy to a person that he becomes negative. Those who are interested in details can read the Journal Beads, Summer 1972, p. 16. I do not know what is the opinion of the Jewelers on these statements but from the point of Sikhism these notions are worthless absurdities.

Yogi Bhajan does not wear the earrings of the Nath Panthi Yogis, but he wears precious gold rings (sometimes two and sometimes three) heavily studded with jewels, and cannot help displaying them ostentatiously, probably as a symbol of wealth acquired through the techniques of Tantric Yoga, which he sacrilegiously identifies with the techniques of Sikh mysticism. Bhai Gurdas, however, makes it clear to all Sikhs of all ages that Yoga asanas and yoga techniques are absolutely useless and unnecessary for Sikh meditations and the spiritual path of Sikhism:
jog jugat gursikh gurs am jhay a

The Guru has himself explained to the Sikhs the technique of true Yoga, and it is this: A Sikh must live in such a moral and spiritual poise that while hoping and waiting he ceases to aspire or crave for low ambitions and remains unconcerned and detached. He should eat little and drink little. He should speak little and never waste time in nonsensical discussion. He should sleep little at night and keep away from the snare of wealth. He should never crave avariciously after wealth and property.

Bhai Gurdas, Var 20 / 15

We still have very eminent scholars and saints who practice and live according to the Essentials of the Sikh Path with utter humility and devotion. They do not wear long robes. They do not wear gold and diamond rings. They do not contaminate Sikh doctrines and practices with practices of creeds and cults which are repulsive to Sikhism and strictly prohibited. There are piles and piles of correct interpretations of the Sacred Writings of the Sikhs written first by the great contemporaries of the Gurus like Bhai Gurdas, Bhai Mani Singh, Bhai Nand Lai, and our own contemporaries like Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh and Bhai Vir Singh. They not only interpreted it but lived it and suffered for it like living martyrs, never seeking anything but the Grace of God and the Gurus as a reward."

Yoga is a lame attempt to bypass the methods explained in Gurbani to become jivan mukta.

3ho can't hide all their beaadbi and manmat now that people are aware of the hidden agenda by these hippies trying to sell yoga under Sikh banner.

Yoga for money = 3ho

3PBSO = prehensile, bipolar, sacrilegious organization

Baba Sri Chand Ji

Idolatry is forbidden in Sikhism, yet a golden statue of an idol adorns the entranceway to the 3HO Gurdwara in Espanola not more than 20 feet from the Sikhnet.com offices. This is a Hindu practice and the idol should be removed from this Sikh Gurdwara. For more photos and information see:

Some 3ho people add their old names, some are like Robert Singh some have sat gaga Singh Moore etc some use a Sikh sounding name when on fb or at yoga class but are Betty sure when not around Sikhs, some convert to Christianity yet still use Khalsa as a last name. 3ho r very confused. (As Leslie Kaur Khalsa)

I think the last name "Khalsa" is wrong, now if someone says khalsaji jarnail singh bindranwale etc then that's adding respect to him but the last name as Khalsa is foolish. The same as Babaji pointed out of the foolish "darshvader sinh Khalsa" he is a blasphemous heretic yet he likes the last name as Khalsa.

Yogi puri gave people weird names and now they have u fill out a form with all yet birth date n time etc n the do a Hindu jyotish star calculation to give these yoga students a play name. So their name is manmat n they don't go to SGGS for Gurmat hukamnama for a name (if they want a Sikh name they should legally change it n denounce their old name)

The nitnaym of 99% of 3ho is just do japji then go do yoga and the reharaas version of anand sahib. Most don't do Panj bania paat. They do anmritvela to enhance their yoga, it doesn't even mean they all do anmritvela either. 3ho make propaganda videos to appear mainstream. Watch the video on Gursant singhs wall about yogi Puri's own words of his motive of "stealing the 5000 year old secret" yogi Puri implies that he is the final polish of Sikhi. Yogi heretic Puri's manmat is totally blasphemous.

3ho uses Hindu Brahmin tactics.

THE KHALSA

Inspired by devotion, And awake to His Light, Singing perpetually, The Name of the Lord Absorbed in His splendor, Absorbed in His love; Even in error Never believing In fasts and tombs, Temples and idols, Or anything but The devotion to the One: Caring not even for Compassion or charity If God's thought be not in them; Caring not for penances, Nor for bathings, In the holy places. Discarding all yoga practices: Such a Child of Light, Such a paragon, Such a complete Man, Fully enlightened In heart and soul, To be the pure, the Khalsa Is worthily deemed. Guru Gobind Singh: Thirty Three Swaiyas 1.

A cardinal principal of Sikhism is that God does not incarnate on Earth, does not have any form and is not anthropomorphic. Sikhism completely disavows that God has incarnated on Earth and assumed human form. Consequently according to Sikhism statue representations of God or other divines are false. To assert that God is anthropomorphic and that God can be represented in a statue is contrary to Sikhism and is a heretical fable. Therefore by displaying this statue of a yogi or deity in front of a Sikh Gurdwara 3ho Sikhs are committing a sacrilegious act against the cardinal pillar of Sikhism.

Secondly, Sikhism completely disavows the utility of yogas, fasts, pilgrimages, rituals and all other types of mystification manufactured by man. These acts are a poisonous salve for superstitious sheep who believe that the formula of ritual will lead to salvation. Rituals and idols satisfy the carnal senses and do nothing more. Rituals and idols are metaphysical chronology. It is hogwash. All of these statues and images of Yogi Bhajan and Hindu gods installed in and around 3ho Gurdwaras is an obscenity according to Sikhism and should be removed.

Images of various Hindu gods at 3HO Sikh Gurdwaras are revered with religious devotion and should be removed.

By displaying idols, 3HO shows absolutely no respect for the rivers of blood that have been shed by innumerable martyrs to preserve the Sikh faith.

Ranjodh Singh Matharu

I saw a video done by a show called desi dna that comes on BBC on 3ho.they say the founder was a yoga teacher who had no intention of preaching Sikhi but was there to do business. He was Sikh & was from Punjab. he was respected by students & some started dressing up like him & showed interest in becoming a Sikh. They chose to b 1 coz their teacher was 1. Sikhi is hence secondary to them. though they never miss Amritvella & Nitnem. I respect that. But on the down side, they twist Sikh traditions & way of life to suit their needs. This is hurting us. They are a business org. For sure, no doubt about that prosper. may god bless u. But plz stop hurting ur fellow followers of Sikhism, for whom it is more than yoga or anything else.

The thing is Kundalni is dormant. You need Hatha Yoga to wake it up and it is very hard and 99 out of 100 people will go crazy. And you can wake it up by reading Bani and that is the easiest. There are many methods to wake it up. So why taking the risk to wake it up by doing yoga. And the Yoga you see on TV is not the real yoga so is the kind of bussiness. And Guru Granth Sahib Ji says, is that there is one God.

Ajmer Singh Randhawa

" Maaney naahin ved bhed simrat puran ke,

Pujat na Bhairon bhoot girja ganidun hain

Tith, waar, shakun, mahurt na jaane kachu,

Rahu, ketu,shani, shukra,chandramaa danidun hain.

Jaat, paat, mantra, jantra, tantra, vrat,shradh, hoam,

Sandhya, sutak aad ko viswaasu nahin bindu hain.

Dasmesh ko saput KHALSA hai bhinn panth,

Mahaa hai agiyani Jou yaako kahey - Hindu hai

The base of Sikh religion is not from Vedas.The concept of 'Vedas truthfulness' and supremacy is not accepted in Sikh religion.

The Sikhs neither eat the ex-creata (dung) of cows, drink it's urine nor clean their houses by the dung of cows to purify. Sikhs are also not ready to perform any Gomedh Yagna, they also do not call the visitors as 'Goghn.'

Now get some preaching from Gurbani on Shiva....Worship of Idols………Being the followers of Saakar Brahm, Hindus make Idols of their Deities, Gods and Goddesses to worship by establishing these Idols as there ISHT or God. Mohsin Phaani, who was in India during the rule of Akbar, writes that there are neither statues nor any place to worship Idols in Sikh temples. How could there be a statue (IDOL) of mere stone be kind and helpful, or fulfill the desires of followers? In his book,'Dabistan-e-majahab', he writes, "Sikhs do not enchant the Mantras or Salokas of Hindus which are written in Sanskrit language, (considered as Dev-baani or language of deities), and not placed supreme by Sikhs. He also writes, "Naanak panthi which are called Sikhs do not have any faith in idols or statues and their temples.

The important evidence is no Sikh Guru ever laid foundation of any temple or worshipped any statue in their life. The worship of idols is forbidden in Sikh religion.

“Jo paathar kao kahte Dev !! Taa ki birthaa hove Sev !!

Naa paathar bole Naa kichu dey!!Fokat karam nihfal hai sev !! 2 !! (Bhairao Mahalla 5, Page 1160). Ghar mahe Thaakur nadar naa aavey !! Gal mahe paahan lai latkaavey !! 1 (Suhi Mahalla 5, Page 738).

“Hindu mule bhule akhuti jaahi !! Naarad kaheyaa se pooj karaahi !! Andhe gunge andh andhaar !! Paathar le pujhe mugadh gawaar !! Ohe jaa aap dube tum kahaa taranhaar !!

(Bihagre ki waar mahalla 4, Page).Jah jah dekhan tah tah soi !! (Prabhaati mahalla 1, Page 1343)

"Kaahe ko pujat paahan ko Kachu paahan main parmesar naahin !! (33 Savaiye Paatshahi

There is no place to worship or bow before the Idols in any such temple. This practice is strictly restricted by Gurus.

‎(10) Worshipment of Snakes, Rodents, Oxen, Monkeys, even Shamsaan and Sati's even LING POOJA (sex-symbol) is not spared and common in Hindu religion, whereas this practice of worshipping is condemned and strictly restricted in Sikh religion.

Devotees of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji believe they must control the animal instincts of Pride/Ego, Anger/Temper, Greed/Urges,

Attachment/Dependency and Lust/Addiction. Sikhs should take Amrit and read Gurbani. Lust, anger, egotism, jealousy and desire are only eliminated by chanting the Name of the Lord.

By all these quotients, examples and arguments it is established that the Sikhs have there own independent identity as a separate nation (KAUM) and Sikhism is a religion to worship the almighty by the way shown to them by their Gurus.

In SUKHMANI SAHIB, last phrase of Ashtpadi-19, %th Guru Arjun Dev Ji says,:--

Eko jap eko saalahe !! Ek simar eko man aahe !! Ekas ke gun gaao anant ! Man tan jaap ek bhagwant !! Eko ek ek har aap !! Puran poor rahio prabh biaap!! Anik bisthaar ek te bhaye !! Ek araadh paraachat gaye !! Man tan antar ek prabh raata!! Gur parsaad Naanak ik jaata !!

http://wesikhsnothindus.blogspot.com/

GURU GOBIND SINGH JI has also warned SIKHS to not to disobey him as He always stands beside them whenever and wherever He is needed. Sikhs are instructed that Guru sadaa ang-sang hai. Until Sikhs follow the RAHAT MARYADA. If they go other way/against his path, He will not care of them.

"JAB EH GAHEN BIPRAN KI REET !! MAIN NAA KARON INKI PARTEET !!

Bipran=Brahmins,or against

He also warns,:-- "RAHAT PIAARI MOHE !! SIKH PIAARA NAHEN !!"

He prefers the Sikhs to follow Sikh traditions, Not his look-a-like of Sikhs. In appraising the almighty Waheguru,

He says,:--

INHI KI KIRPAA KE SAJE HAM HAIN !! NAHIN MOSE GARIB KAROR PARE !!

A vast majority of Hindus are the followers of SHIV or MAHADEV. In Gurbaani Sikhs are restricted to worship only Niraakar Brahm or omnipresent almighty WAHEGURU, Guru Gobind Singh Ji says, "Mahadev ko kahat sadaa Shiv !! Nirankaar ka cheenat nahin Bhiv !! (Chaupai, Patshahi 10 )

Means the people who call Mahadev as Sadaa Shiv or the almighty lord, are they not feared of God. Parampita Parmaatma is creator of all deities, Durga, Shiv, Vishnu, Brahma, Raam,or Krishna all are his creations. They themselves are not Gods. God or Waheguru is master of all. He can only be truely worshipped by his true name. Sikh Gurus and Guru Granth Saahib Ji inspires the WORD OF GOD.

Sikhhu sabad piaario !! janam maran ki tek !!
Mukh ujjal sadd sukhi !! Naanak simrat ek !!

So wake up before you get late. Follow his preeching and obey him. Sikhs do not seek MOKSHA/FINAL REST but believe and hope to relax in GURU_CHARNI. He always seeks the presence of GURU IN LIFE AND AFTER HIS LIFE. Get baptized with AMRIT to purify your soul and get rid of sins you earned, worship only one almighty God--WAHEGURU, the omnipresent. FOLLOW THE TRUE PATH OF LIFE.

Is the hanuman not a monkey God?

Do the Hindus not worship the Ling (Prick) of their Lord Shiva? Please read full story of Shiv Puran in the above said blog.
http://rssagainstsikhism.blogspot.com/

There is only one Sikhi—the main Sikh stream which was started by the founder and first Guru—Guru Nanak Dev ji. He himself opposed the worship of Brahminical rituals

1)ਦਇਆ ਕਪਾਹ ਸੰਤੋਖੁ ਸੂਤੁ ਜਤੁ ਗੰਢੀ ਸਤੁ ਵਟੁ ॥ ਏਹੁ ਜਨੇਊ ਜੀਅ ਕਾ ਹਈ ਤ ਪਾਡੇ ਘਤੁ ॥ ਨਾ ਏਹੁ ਤੁਟੈ ਨ ਮਲੁ ਲਗੈ ਨਾ ਏਹੁ ਜਲੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਧੰਨੁ ਸੁ ਮਾਣਸ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਜੋ ਗਲਿ ਚਲੇ ਪਾਇ !!

2)- ਕਬੀਰ ਪਾਹਨੁ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰੁ ਕੀਆ ਪੂਜੈ ਸਭੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ॥ ਦੇਖਾ ਦੇਖੀ ਸ੍ਵਾਂਗੁ ਧਰਿ ਭੂਲੇ ਭਟਕਾ ਖਾਹਿ ॥ ang 1371 !!

He never preached to worship idols. His son Baba Sri Chand ji was disowned by Guru Nanak as he was indulged in anti Sikh activities. His sect is known as Udasi Samprda which is not recognized as Sikhs.

ਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਮੁਹੁ ਫੇਰੇ ਜੇ ਕੋਈ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਕਹਿਆ ਨ ਚਿਤਿ ਧਰੈ ॥ ਕਰਿ ਆਚਾਰ ਬਹੁ ਸੰਪਉ ਸੰਚੈ ਜੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰੈ ਸੁ ਨਰਕਿ ਪਰੈ ॥੪॥

The 10th Guru Gobind Singh ji abided his Sikhs to refrain from Brahminical rituals and created Khalsa which wear the mandatory holy signs of Five Kakaars. These signs are wore by his true followers who got the Amrit of Khande di Pahul.

1)ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਉਬਾਰ ਨ ਸਕਹੈ ਜਾਕਰ ਨਾਮ ਰਟੈ ਹੈ॥ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਰੁਦ੍ਰ ਸੂਰਹ ਸਸਿ ਤੇ ਬਸਿ ਕਾਲ ਸਭੈ ਹੈ ॥ ੧ !! (ਸ. ਹਜਾਰੇ)

2)ਜਬ ਲਗ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਰਹੇ ਨਿਆਰਾ॥ ਤਬ ਲਗ ਤੇਜ ਦੀਓ ਮੈਂ ਸਾਰਾ॥ ਜਬ ਇਹ ਗਹੈ ਬਿਪਰਨ ਕੀ ਰੀਤ॥ ਮੈਂ ਨ ਕਰੋਂ ਇਨ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਤ॥

Those scholars and learned people of the time were fools who stood up against this malpractice and formed the Chief Khalsa Diwan and Singh Sabha to implement the Sikh code of Conduct which gives a distinct identity to Sikhs and she is against it. Why do the people forget :

ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਸਾਚੀ ਸਾਚਾ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥(Raag Dhanaasree M. 3, GGS. 666).

Guru Gobind Singh ji has ordered his Sikh in his 52 Orders or Hukam that :

http://52orders.blogspot.com/

Guru Gobind Singh also wrote to Aurangzeb in Zafarnama that he (Guru ji) does not have any faith in worship of idols but he is idol destroyer.

ਮਨਮ ਕੁਸ਼ਤਾ-ਅਮ ਕੋਹੀਆਂ ਬੁੱਤਪ੍ਰਸਤ॥ ਕਿ ਆਂ ਬੁੱਤ-ਪ੍ਰਸਤੰਦੋ, ਮਨ ਬੁਤ-ਸ਼ਿਕਸਤ॥ (ਮੈਂ ਬੁੱਤ-ਪੂਜ ਪਹਾੜੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਨਾਸ਼ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲਾ ਹਾਂ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਉਹ ਬੁੱਤ-ਪ੍ਰਸਤ ਹਨ ਤੇ ਮੈਂ ਬੁੱਤ ਤੋੜਨ ਵਾਲਾ )

ਪਾਖਾਨ ਗਢਿ ਕੈ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਕੀਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਦੇ ਕੈ ਛਾਤੀ ਪਾਉ ॥ਜੇ ਏਹ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਸਾਚੀ ਹੈ ਤਉ ਗੜ੍ਹਣਹਾਰੇ ਖਾਉ !!

The sculptor carves the stone and fashions it into an idol, placing his feet upon its chest.

If this stone god was true, it would devour the sculptor for this.

ਪਾਤੀ ਤੋਰੈ ਮਾਲਿਨੀ ਪਾਤੀ ਪਾਤੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ਜਿਸੁ ਪਾਹਨ ਕਉ ਪਾਤੀ ਤੋਰੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਹਨ ਨਿਰਜੀਉ ॥੧॥

You tear off the leaves, O gardener, but in each and every leaf, there is life. That stone idol, for which you tear off those leaves - that stone idol is lifeless.

"ਰਹਿਣੀ ਰਹੈ ਸੋਈ ਸਿਖ ਮੇਰਾ ॥ ਉਹ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਮੈ ਉਸ ਕਾ ਚੇਰਾ ॥ ਰਹਿਤ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਨਹਿ ਸਿਖ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥ ਰਹਿਤ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਦਰ ਚੋਟਾਂ ਖਾਵੈ ॥ ਰਹਿਤ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਸੁਖ ਕਬਹੁੰ ਨ ਲਹੇ ॥ ਤਾਂ ਤੇ ਰਹਿਤ ਸੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜ ਕਰ ਰਹੈ ॥"

"ਨਿਜ ਪੰਥ ਚਲਾਇਓ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਧਰਿ ਤੇਜ ਕਰਾਰਾ॥ ਸਿਰ ਕੇਸ ਧਾਰਿ ਗਹਿ ਖੜਗ ਕੋ ਸਭ ਦੁਸਟ ਪਛਾਰਾ॥ ਸੀਲ ਜਤ ਕੀ ਕਛ ਪਹਰਿ ਪਕੜੋ ਹਥਿਆਰਾ॥ ਸਚ ਫਤੇ ਬੁਲਾਈ ਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਜੀਤਿਓ ਰਣ ਭਾਰਾ॥ ਸਭ ਦੈਤ ਅਰਿਨਿ ਕੋ ਘੇਰ ਕਰਿ ਕੀਚੈ ਪ੍ਰਹਾਰਾ॥ ਤਬ ਸਹਿਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਿਓ ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਜਾਪ ਅਪਾਰਾ॥ ਇਉਂ ਉਪਜੇ ਸਿੰਘ ਭੁਜੰਗੀਏ ਨੀਲ ਅੰਬਰ ਧਾਰਾ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ਨਿਜ ਰੂਪਿ ਧਰਿ ਨਾਥਾ ਨਾਥ ਸਨਾਥ ਕਰਾਇਆ । ਨਰਪਤਿ ਨਰਹ ਨਰਿੰਦੁ ਹੈ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰਿ ਆਕਾਰੁ ਬਣਾਇਆ । ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ ਕਾਰਣੁ ਕਰਣੁ ਬਿਰਦੁ ਬਿਰਦਾਇਆ । ਦੇਵੀ ਦੇਵ ਦੇਵਾਧਿ ਦੇਵ ਅਲਖ ਅਭੇਵ ਨ ਅਲਖੁ ਲਖਾਇਆ ।......ਸਤਿ ਰੂਪੁ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਉ ਜਪਾਇਆ । ਧਰਮਸਾਲ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਪੁਰੁ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਸਚ ਖੰਡੁ ਵਸਾਇਆ । ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ ॥੧॥

As already mentioned Idolartry is totally against Sikhi Guru Nanak broke away from Hinduism and spoke out against idolatry, Guru Granth Sahib is Against idolatry, Sikh Rhet Maryada forbids idolatry...

Since I am not associated with 3HO for more than 20 years, I have very little idea as to what is going on with it other than probably new people coming in old people hanging out or leaving either to get into Sikhi or back into the world.

1)ਸਬਦੈ ਕਾ ਨਿਬੇੜਾ ਸੁਣ ਤੂ ਅਉਧੂ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਹੋਈ !! ਨਾਮੇ ਰਾਤੇ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਮਾਤੇ ਨਾਮੇ ਤੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਹੋਈ !! ਨਾਮੇ ਹੀ ਤੇ ਸਭੁ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਵੇ ਨਾਮੇ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਈ !! ਬਿਨ ਨਾਵੈਭੇਖ ਕਰਹਿ ਬਹੁਤੇਰੇ ਸਚੇ ਆਪਿ ਖੁਆਈ !! ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਾਈਏ ਅਉਧੂ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤ ਤਾ ਹੋਈ !! ਕਰੀ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ਮਨ ਦੇਖਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁਨਾਵੈ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ !! ਸਿਧ ਗੋਸਟਿ !! (Sidh Gosht)

2)- ਹਠੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਰੈ ਨ ਲੇਖੈ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਵੇਸ ਕਰੈ ਬਹੁ ਭਸਮ ਲਗਾਵੈ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਬਿਸਾਰਿ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਵੈ ॥ Ang 226 !!

3)ਬਹੁਤੇ ਭੇਖ ਕਰੈ ਭੇਖਧਾਰੀ ॥ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਤਿਸਨਾ ਫਿਰੈ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੀ ॥ ਆਪੁ ਨ ਚੀਨੈ ਬਾਜੀ ਹਾਰੀ ॥ ਕਾਪੜ ਪਹਿਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਚਤੁਰਾਈ ॥ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹਿ ਅਤਿ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਈ ॥ ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਸੇਵੇ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਈ ॥ ang 230 !!

4)ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਪੈਨਣੁ ਖਾਣੁ ਸਭੁ ਬਾਦਿ ਹੈ ਧਿਗੁ ਸਿਧੀ ਧਿਗੁ ਕਰਮਾਤਿ ॥ ਸਾ ਸਿਧਿ ਸਾ ਕਰਮਾਤਿ ਹੈ ਅਚਿੰਤੁ ਕਰੇ ਜਿਸੁ ਦਾਤਿ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਏਹਾ ਸਿਧਿ ਏਹਾ ਕਰਮਾਤਿ ॥੨॥ Without the Name, all food and clothes are worthless; cursed is such spirituality, and cursed are such miraculous powers. That alone is spirituality, and that alone is miraculous power, which the Carefree Lord spontaneously bestows. O Nanak, the Lord's Name abides in the mind of the Gurmukh; this is spirituality, and this is miraculous power. ||2|| (Raag sorith M.3 GGS. 650).

5)ਧਨਾਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੯ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਜੋਗੀ ਕਉ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਨਉ ॥ ਲੋਭ ਮੋਹ ਮਾਇਆ ਮਮਤਾ ਫੁਨਿ ਜਿਹ ਘਟਿ ਮਾਹਿ ਪਛਾਨਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਪਰ ਨਿੰਦਾ ਉਸਤਤਿ ਨਹ ਜਾ ਕੈ ਕੰਚਨ ਲੋਹ ਸਮਾਨੋ ॥ ਹਰਖ ਸੋਗ ਤੇ ਰਹੈ ਅਤੀਤਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਤਾਹਿ ਬਖਾਨੋ ॥੧॥ ਚੰਚਲ ਮਨੁ ਦਹ ਦਿਸਿ ਕਉ ਧਾਵਤ ਅਚਲ ਜਾਹਿ ਠਹਰਾਨੋ ॥ ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਕੋ ਜੋ ਨਰੁ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਤਾਹਿ ਤੁਮ ਮਾਨੋ ॥੨॥੩॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 685}

6)ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਰੋਗੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਾਰ ਕਮਾਈ ॥ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਤਿਸਹਿ ਨ ਚੇਤਹਿ ਬਪੁੜੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥ sggs 735 !!

7)- ਭੇਖ ਦਿਖਾਵੈ ਸਚੁ ਨ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥ ਕਹਤੋ ਮਹਲੀ ਨਿਕਟਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ !! Ang 738 !!

8)ਇਹੁ ਜਗਤੁ ਮਿਟੀ ਕਾ ਪੁਤਲਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਇਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਰੋਗੁ ਵਡਾ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਮਾਇਆ ॥ ਅਨੇਕ ਜਤਨ ਭੇਖ ਕਰੇ ਜੋਗੀ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥ ang 909 !!

9)- ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਣ ਕਥੇ ਸੁਣੇ ਹਾਰੇ ਮੁਨੀ ਅਨੇਕਾ ॥ਅਠਸਠਿ ਤੀਰਥ ਬਹੁ ਘਣਾ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਥਾਕੇ ਭੇਖਾ ॥ Ang 1008 !! Reciting and listening to the Vedas and the Puraanas, countless wise men have grown weary. So many in their various religious robes have grown weary, wandering to the sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage.

10)- ਭੇਖੀ ਹਾਥ ਨ ਲਭਈ ਤੀਰਥਿ ਨਹੀ ਦਾਨੇ ॥ ਪੂਛਉ ਬੇਦ ਪੜੰਤਿਆ ਮੂਠੀ ਵਿਣੁ ਮਾਨੇ ॥ Ang 1012 !!

11)- ਬਹੁਤੇ ਭੇਖ ਕਰੇ ਭੇਖਧਾਰੀ ॥ਬਿਨੁ ਸਬਦੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਿਨੈ ਨ ਮਾਰੀ ॥ ang 1067 !!
12)ਜਟਾ ਮੁਕਟੁ ਤਨਿ ਭਸਮ ਲਗਾਈ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਛੋਡਿ ਤਨਿ ਨਗਨੁ ਭਇਆ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਕਿਰਤ ਕੈ ਬਾਂਧੈ ਭੇਖੁ ਭਇਆ ॥ ang 1127 !!

13)- ਜੋਗੀ ਗ੍ਰਿਹੀ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਭੇਖਧਾਰੀ ॥ ਏ ਸੂਤੇ ਅਪਣੈ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੀ ॥ ang 1128 !!

14) ਭੇਖ ਕਰੈ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਚਿਤੁ ਡੋਲੈ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਕਾਮੁ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੁ ॥ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਤਿਸਾ ਭੂਖ ਅਤਿ ਬਹੁਤੀ ਭਉਕਤ ਫਿਰੈ ਦਰ ਬਾਰੁ ॥ ang 1132 !!

15)- ਮੈਲੇ ਸਿਵ ਸੰਕਰਾ ਮਹੇਸ ॥ ਮੈਲੇ ਸਿਧ ਸਾਧਿਕ ਅਰੁ ਭੇਖ ॥ ang 1158 !! Shiva, Shankara and Mahaysh are polluted The Siddhas, seekers and strivers, and those who wear religious robes, are polluted.

16)ਕਰਿ ਭੇਖ ਨ ਪਾਈਐ ਹਰਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜੋਗੁ ਹਰਿ ਪਾਈਐ !! ਸਤਸੰਗਤੀ ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰ ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾ ਖੋਲਿ ਖੋਲਿ ਕਪਾਟ ॥ ang 1297 !!

17)- ਜੋਗੀ ਕਾਪੜੀਆ ਸਿਰਖੂਥੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਬਦੈ ਗਲਿ ਫਾਸੀ ॥ ਸਬਦਿ ਰਤੇ ਪੂਰੇ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ॥ ang 1332!!

ਜਿਨਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨ ਸੇਵਿਓ ਸਬਦਿ ਨ ਕੀਤੋ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ ਓਇ ਮਾਣਸ ਜੂਨਿ ਨ ਆਖੀਅਨਿ ਪਸੂ ਢੋਰ ਗਾਵਾਰ ॥ ਓਨਾ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਨ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਸਉ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮੁਏ ਵਿਕਾਰ ਮਹਿ ਮਰਿ ਜੰਮਹਿ ਵਾਰੋ ਵਾਰ ॥ ਜੀਵਦਿਆ ਨੋ ਮਿਲੈ ਸੁ ਜੀਵਦੇ ਹਰਿ ਜਗਜੀਵਨ ਉਰ ਧਾਰਿ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਤਿਤੁ ਸਚੈ ਦਰਬਾਰਿ ॥੪੭॥ ang 1418 !!

We Indians never do yoga other than the Sanyasi people who have denounced world and living in hermitages.

A very few people practice yoga. So are we not healthy?

Well just for keeping you healthy ig you do yoga-no harm but if you accept it as a Sikh concept--then certainly there is no place for Yoga in Sikhism.

Guru Nanak Dev ji himself has denounced it in Sidh Goshat when he says ‘Naave ka nibeda sun tu Audhoo Bin naave jog na hoi !' means that without thy true naam, one can not achieve anything in Yoga.

Just read my blogs http://boonoflife.blogspot.com/ & the other one in Punjabi if you know http://superbsoflife.blogspot.com/

Ranjit Singh Matharu to Ajmer Singh Randhawa;

yoga has focusing & stretching techniques similar to those in martial arts. Sikh traditionally didn't do yoga, though they meditate, they practiced a martial art so fierce that the British banned it in their raj.Sikh, despite of having a very small population, contributed in disproportionately large numbers for the freedom struggle,& in the armed forces. unquestionably, the Sikh form the biggest fighting force in India. Now please don't say meditation is yoga! Yoga is helpful but please don't brag!"

Pritam Singh to Ajmer Singh Randhawa;

I know about Quakers, Mormons, puritans, etc. the whole philosophy of christianity is almost the same in mythology as Hindu, God isn't a male with a beard, heaven isn't some cloud city with a gate, god didn’t make a devil that is able to "possess" people and god can't cast him away, women were not created for Adams rib, god doesn't have a "son", god isn't jealous etc. I could go on and on. If u accept the basics of Christianity means u are not Sikh, to be a Sikh read the first stanza of rehat (u cannot owe allegiance to any other faith) whether or not u create a new sect it is never compatible to Sikhi, the 3ho version makes it but in reality Sikhi is totally unique and has simple tenants to make one a Sikh.

Khalsa as a last name destroys the greatness of the Khalsa panth because people aren't even a Khalsa, it's the same as having "the saint of god" as a last name yet drunk and depressed out not living up to the name (every single American I known that got divorced changed their name back to maiden name immediately when they got divorced) Khalsa is a difficult name to live up to and 99% don't live up to it.

Gurbani must be studied not just read, paath means study (not just recite) vichaar means to contemplate (not just think) gurbani vichar is what most people lack and become susceptible to falling away from Sikhi. People that don't understand Gurbani are the ones that spend minimum time studying. Do u know how stupid we all servings u study Gurmat and Gurbani? Everyone of us are completely idiots. Dedication is life long Akal purakh knows who will follow thru with their religious convictions the rest never truly made the true commitment.

People shouldn't just go to Gurduara on Sunday's we don't have a sabbath day, every breath is precious everyday is our "sabbath" so to speak.

Dilpreet Singh to Ajmer Singh Randhawa;

It was painful to describe the non-Sikh practice by 3ho & group they have been degrading the Sikh standard of living and Introduces Silly stuff ,

1. They continues following Non- Sikh practice under the Sikh label Like using statues , Kundalni Yoga , Tantric Yoga, Astrology prediction, Name "KHALSA" Which are strictly forbidden in Sikh practice and against Sikh Codes of Conduct.

2. It was Surprise to know when one of them calls reincarnation of goddess & Sikh prominent.

3.They do not hesitate in spoiling Sikh Guru Image in Proving there point some in discussion went to said Guru Sahib Sang Hindus hymns , that was ridiculous experience I had as they not even understand the Sikh basics and calling themselves with name Guru & Khalsa.

4. They have been organizes events which are further degrading Sikh like style:

"Friday Night Yoga Dance Trance Kirtan Party"

5. 3HO singer, Snatam Kaur Khalsa (In sikh dress), doing a video to Shiva. At one point in the video she pictures the Harmandir Sahib! How dare they include the Darbar Sahib in their sacrilegious crap!

We openly challenges all these organization to discuss any concept on basics of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, may Join us here Sikhism Group :

This was Hard to see there continuation in degrading Sikh religion and our Leaders had pay no Intention to them, I urge them to declare all these organization as CULT Non- Sikh Organization.

Gursant Singh writes;

"Yogi Bhajan fits Sikh history into centuries of history of Kundalini Yoga as a minor and unimportant episode of a group of people who forgot their traditions in their era of persecution, and had to wait for Yogi Bhajan the Messiah of Kundalini Yoga. He considers Guru Nanak and the householder Sikhs to be one group of Kundalini sect, with Siri Chand and his followers the other group. He completely forgets Guru Ram Das in this tradition. Now he is the only Maha Tantric, the Only Kundalini Expert in the world. Up till 1972 Yogi Bhajan never mentioned in the Beads, even the name of Sant Hazara Singh who was murdered at Doraha, if I am not wrong. As Hazara Singh died decades ago, the time gap had to be filled by a fictitious Mahan Tantric from Tibet Lama Lilan Po. But Yogi Bhajan does not state whether it was before or after the Chinese occupation. Did Lilan Po come to Los Angeles or he flew to Tibet with the special permission of the authorities. What surprises me is not that Yogi Bhajan can fabricate such unbelievable and fabulous stories, but that educated Americans in the proper frame of mind can believe all this balderdash. He claims that he was a Kundalini Expert at the age of 14. This must be news even to his father, who is living. None of his college mates, some of whom are in the U.S.A., will confirm any of this nonsense."

The quotations you are giving concerning Kundalini and the practice of yoga are misquotes and wrong interpretations from the English translation of Guru Granth by Manmohan Singh.

The word Kundalini is used only once in the whole of Adi Guru Granth by Bard Poet Gyand. The Gurus used the word Bhuyangam meaning Serpent power. The Gurus criticize all Yogic methods of controlling and awakening the Kundalini and they say that Enlightenment and bliss cannot be attained by these yogic asanas and mere awakening of the Kundalini. Here are a few comments by the Gurus:

(A) I have recited and studied the Vedas; I have performed nauli-dhoti karma of cleaning the intestine; I have awakened and controlled Kundalini (Serpent power) but still I have not been able to get rid of the five lower passions. I am still ensnared by egoism. My beloved friend, you cannot meet the Lord in this way. I have made many efforts. At last I have fallen at the door of the true Enlightener and begged him to give Wisdom and Light to my mind and soul. (Adi Granth, Guru Arjan, p 641)

(B) It is I, it is me, boasts he, And in this egoism he is ensnared. You cannot meet the Beloved in this way He has performed eighty four asanas Of Yogis adept in Yoga techniques. He has thus wasted his years. He aims to prolong his life. But he dies and would be born again and again. Alas, he has not sought the companionship of the Lord. (Adi Granth, Guru Arjan, Sorath, p 642)

(C) I have performed nauli-dhauti karma (of cleaning intestine), I have inflamed and awakened the Serpent Power [Kundalini: Bhuyangam) by Pranayama practice of inhaling (purak), Retention (kumbhak), exhaling (rechak). Without the divine Wisdom of the True Guru no spiritual realization can be attained. By such practices one wanders in wilderness of delusion and drowns himself in the error. The spiritually blind cleans his body from inside by filling and emptying air, but he can never thereby clean the inner dirt and pollution within him. Without contemplation of His Name with devotion all yogic techniques and ritual cleaning of body from within are useless. They are like jugglers who perform deceptive tricks. (Adi Granth, Guru Nanak, Prabhati, p 1343 line 8-21)

(D) Friend, you cannot attain any peace whatsoever by nauli-dhauti (cleaning the digestive system) and by becoming adept in eighty-four yogic asanas. For many many years, you have recited the mantras (Jap) and did penance through Yogic sadhana, and wandered about (the holy places and teachers). Even for a moment you have not attained peace. O Yogi, your mind still wanders away in craze for passions. (Adi Granth, Majh V, p 98)

Premka Kaur has summed up her views on Kundalini in the article under discussion {Beads, 29, 30) as follows, and these words are one way or the other repeated in all their major articles in which they aim to rationalize their Tantric practices: "In this perfect ecstasy of Wahe-Guru a being glows and his Kundalini rises from the base of his spine to the top of his head to the pineal gland. The pineal gland radiates and the pituitary gland secretes. The Pineal gland is the Dasam Duar or the Tenth Gate. This experience is the real Yoga and without this experience there is no Sikh Dharma because Dharma is based upon experience of this occurrence."

This statement of Premka Kaur, inspired probably by her Master Bhajan Yogi, is undiluted nonsense and shows that neither she, nor her Master, have had any real mystical and spiritual experience as revealed in the Sikh scriptures and the Sikh Path. As has been proved in the foregoing pages, there is not an atom of truth in this statement. If this statement is the key to Premka and her Master's understanding of Sikh Dharma, then I am afraid they have not understood the ABCs of Sikh religion and mysticism. All these inane and stupid notions about Pineal glands being the Dasam Duar (Tenth Seat of Consciousness)have absolutely no place in Sikh scriptures and no place in Sikh theology and mysticism. The Dasam Duar is the highest state of transcendent vision of God, where the Light of God is visibly seen in all its infinite aspects. If Yogi Bhajan and Premka Kaur are sure that their Pituitary and Pineal glands are giving out some extraordinary secretions they should get them examined by some competent medical scientist, and help the cause of science if not of mysticism. This bluff-mysticism has no place in Sikhism, at least.

It is a pity that this senseless article was reprinted by Sikh Sansar in their Theology Number (Vol 6, 1) probably because they did not have anything better to print. It is a matter of extreme regret that half a dozen learned members of the Editorial Board of Sikh Sansar have not been able to do any editorial checking of the article. Either they have never cared to read the Adi Guru Granth and Bhai Gurdas intelligently all their lives, in which there are hundreds of hymns clearly revealing the mystical experiences of Dasam Duar or they were so badly in need of material that they considered any trash to be better than nothing. I would feel honored if Dr Narinder Singh Kapany, the Chief Editor, and about half a dozen learned Editors could be good enough to tell me what is theologically correct in this article, which is full of criminal distortion of Gurbani and other people's translations, and an open insult to Sikh mysticism and scriptures."

Picture of Mariam Mary in Sikh insignia-Khanda

According to Sikhism, Jesus or any other person who took birth in this world is not God. Sikhism has a clear description of God. "God is One. He is the Supreme Truth. He the Creator is without fear and without hate. He is immortal. He is neither born and nor does He die. By Guru's grace shall He be met? Chant And Meditate on His Name. In the beginning, He was the Truth. Throughout the ages, He has been the Truth. He is the Truth now and He shall be the Truth forever" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 1). "He has no form, no shape, no color; God is beyond these three qualities. One understands Him, O Nanak, with whom God is pleased" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 283).

Our believe in the one true God is why we as Sikhs should find the sacrilegious misrepresentation of our sacred Khalsa symbol "Khanda" by 3HOers who place the Catholic virgin marry inside the Khanda and then put this image in their Gurdwara at Espanola, so reprehensable.

This whole Christmas thing is nothing more than a Catholic invention now used for commercial profit. Christmas' origins are from a pagan roman holiday which the Christians adopted in order to atract converts who wanted to party at this time of year. Notice that the Virgin is depicted as a large figure while the Sikh Gurus are small images adorning her. This virgin is the central image in the picture and she stands higher than the Sikh Gurus. She is floating above Guru Ram Dass Ji who is at her feet.

Misinterpretation of the Sikh Ideal of Raj-Yoga:

Political and Spiritual Sovereignty;

"In Winter the same year this myth not only "seemed to be" but developed further. In the Winter Solstice, Beads 16, 1972, Premka Kaur writes, "Yogiji is the Mahan Tantric of this time. At any given period of time there is only one living Mahan Tantric on the earth. Yogiji studied Tantric Yoga under Sant Hazara Singh, the last living Master, and when he died, he passed the light onto Lama Lilan Po, who passed it to Yogiji. He teaches White Tantra." (page 26)

Now that this myth was made known to 3HO yogis, it had to be given a historical garb. This was done by a number of speeches of Yogi Bhajan which his theorists have summed up in Kundalini Quarterly, Summer 1976: "Tantric Yoga was practiced in couples of male and female. It cleansed the subconscious of all phobias and psychological problems. It was practiced only under the guidance of a person called the Mahan Tantric. There existed only one such person in the world at any one time." (page 3) Natural disasters and wars took their toll. At that point in history over 26,000 years ago, many seers, scholars, yogis and their followers took materials and went into the hills of Tibet. There for 900 years they stayed with the hope of preserving that knowledge. Unfortunately they did not always practice them. The original Kundalini Yoga survived, but it had become a secret oral tradition, (page 7) About 500 years ago, a stage came in India where many of the techniques were learned or rediscovered. Guru Nanak, Baba Siri Chand, Guru Gobind Singh and others reintegrated this ancient technology into their contemporary life and practices. The breath mantra, meditation, exercise and community living were all taught to everyone. This gave rise to a group of practitioners called the Sikhs, as well as to new groups of ascetic yogis who did not look down on the life of a householder. Since 1969, the West has had a unique opportunity to learn meditation techniques of Kundalini Yoga without secrecy and personality cults. Yogi Bhajan, Master of Kundalini Yoga and the present Mahan Tantric has learned, experienced and mastered the ancient techniques from all these sources. He has been a recognized teacher and master of Kundalini Yoga since he was fourteen years old. He has been teaching these techniques openly in the manner compatible with the Western living pace. (Kundalini Quarterly, Summer Solstice 1976, page 8)

Patanjali's Yoga has been called Raja Yoga (Kingly or Royal Yoga) by Vivekananda and other great savants. Later on, every school of Yoga started applying this term to their own school of Yoga. So in Yoga literature this term simply means Royal Yoga or the Chief and outstanding Yoga. Yogi Bhajan applies it to his own brand of Yoga. Sikhism is not a school of Yoga, and as we have seen, it is highly critical of many Yoga systems, and positively the antithesis of Tantric Yoga. But Yogi Bhajan's theorists who are expert in distorting scriptures and translations employ the same trick on the interpretation of Raja Yoga also:

Patanjali's Yoga has been called Raja Yoga (Kingly or Royal Yoga) by Vivekananda and other great savants. Later on, every school of Yoga started applying this term to their own school of Yoga. So in Yoga literature this term simply means Royal Yoga or the Chief and outstanding Yoga. Yogi Bhajan applies it to his own brand of Yoga. Sikhism is not a school of Yoga, and as we have seen, it is highly critical of many Yoga systems, and positively the antithesis of Tantric Yoga. But Yogi Bhajan's theorists who are expert in distorting scriptures and translations employ the same trick on the interpretation of Raja Yoga also:

(1) Premka Kaur's distorted version;

Raj jog takhat dian Guru Ram Das. The throne of Raja Yoga was given to Guru Ram Das forever. p 1399, p 4621 M.M.S.

Manmohan Singh's Correct Translation;

Guru Amardas has blessed Guru Ram Das with the secular and spiritual throne.

Gursant Singh answers;

Premka Kaur has again taken illegal steps to attribute to Manmohan Singh her own translation, with a motive that is quite clear. The complete text and translation of the verse states that "First it was Nanak Chand who brought to the world Light and Wisdom and then he gave his Sovereign powers and wealth to Angad who gave them to Amardas who gave this throne (gaddi) or Raj-Yoga [Miri Piri) to Guru Ram Das.

(2) Premka Kaur's distorted version;

Guru Arjan kaluchare tain raj jog ras janio O Guru Arjan, thou knowest the essence of Raj Yoga. (p 1408, p 4652 M.M.S.)

Manmohan Singh's correct version;

Says Kali, the bard, thou, O Guru Arjan Dev knowest the relish of both the secular and spiritual sovereignties. (p 1408, p 4652 M.M.S.)

Gursant Singh answers;

God alone knows what will happen to Manmohan Singh's translation of the Adi Guru Granth if Premka Kaur and other 3HO Writers misuse and mishandle it as they have done here. These very Bard Poets have made it clear that this Raj-Yoga is Miri Piri in Persian and it is the well-known doctrine of Political and Spiritual Sovereignty. Guru Nanak and his successors were all called True King (Sacha Patshah) and for the whole of the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries the Sikhs paid their loyalty only to this concept. Bard Harbans says:

Guru Arjan sir chatar ap parmesiuar dio God Himself bestowed the Umbrella of Sovereignty on Guru Arjan.

chatar singhasan pirthami Guru Arjan ko de ayio

(Before his ascension Guru Ram Das) gave the throne and the umbrella of sovereignty of the whole world to Guru Arjan. (Adi Granth, Swaiyai Bhat Harbans, p 1409)

Thus the word Raj jog are two different words having the same meaning as Miri (Political Authority) and Piri (Spiritual Authority). In the first verse Raj jog Takhat dian Guru Ram Das, both 'j' of Raj and *g' of Jog in Punjabi have orthographic marks called aunkad which is put below these letters. These are grammatical indications of the fact that they are both nouns and separate words. It has nothing to do with Raja Yoga of the Yogic Cults, which are in no way related to thrones or umbrellas of sovereignty.

Menacing image of Yogi Bhajan overshadowing Sikh wedding!

You can see the menacing image of Yogi Bhajan overshadowing this Anand Karaj (Sikh wedding) of an innocent couple in the 3HO Espanola Gurdwara:

Let's face it, 3HO is Yogi Bhajan! As long as 3HO Sikhs keep pictures and paintings in their Gurdwaras of Yogi Bhajan and continue promoting YB's teachings like they're from a satguru, then 3HO and all the other organizations YB created will fail. They'll never gain respect from the traditional Sikh community and as we are seeing with the infighting and lawsuits, their status even as legitimate non profit yoga teachers will go down in flames. 3HOers need to distance themselves from Yogi bhajan soon or they're doomed.

You may view this menacing image of Yogi Bhajan in a larger view along with other sacreligious paintings and idols at the 3HO Espanola Gurdwara by clicking on this link:

Sikh or yogurt ? (By Gursant singh)

Put some clothes and a head covering on that naked Yogi visiting the Darbar Sahib. Is the half naked yogi in the painting Baba Siri Chand

This painting was evidently a gift from Yogi Bhajan’s followers to a newly married couple as shown in this video:

The Myth of the Mahan Tantric and Baba Siri chand from "Sikhism and Tantric yoga"

3ho keep images & idols of Baba Siri chand. Why? Its mentioned in Guru Granth Sahib that they did not accept Guru Nanak as their Guru. Then what’s the meaning of keeping images/idols of traitors? If idol of Siri Chand is art work, then idol of Baba Ram Rai can also be the art work!"

ਰਾਮਕਲੀ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ ਰਾਇ ਬਲਵੰਡਿ ਤਥਾ ਸਤੈ ਡੂਮਿ ਆਖੀ
Vaar Of Raamkalee, Uttered By Satta And Balwand The Drummer:

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:
ਨਾਉ ਕਰਤਾ ਕਾਦਰੁ ਕਰੇ ਕਿਉ ਬੋਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੋਖੀਵਦੈ ॥
One who chants the Name of the Almighty Creator - how can his words be judged?
ਦੇ ਗੁਨਾ ਸਤਿ ਭੈਣ ਭਰਾਵ ਹੈ ਪਾਰੰਗਤਿ ਦਾਨੁ ਪੜੀਵਦੈ ॥
His divine virtues are the true sisters and brothers; through them, the gift of supreme status is obtained.
ਨਾਨਕਿ ਰਾਜੁ ਚਲਾਇਆ ਸਚੁ ਕੋਟੁ ਸਤਾਣੀ ਨੀਵ ਦੈ ॥ Nanak established the kingdom; He built the true fortress on the strongest foundations.
ਲਹਣੇ ਧਰਿਓਨੁ ਛਤੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਸਿਫਤੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਵਦੈ ॥ He installed the royal canopy over Lehna's head; chanting the Lord's Praises, He drank in the Ambrosial Nectar.
ਮਤਿ ਗੁਰ ਆਤਮ ਦੇਵ ਦੀ ਖੜਗਿ ਜੋਰਿ ਪਰਾਕੁਇ ਜੀਅ ਦੈ ॥ The Guru implanted the almighty sword of the Teachings to illuminate his soul.ਗੁਰਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਰਹਰਾਸਿ ਕੀਈ ਨਾਨਕਿ ਸਲਾਮਤਿ ਥੀਵਦੈ ॥ The Guru bowed down to His disciple, while Nanak was still alive.
ਸਹਿ ਟਿਕਾ ਦਿਤੋਸੁ ਜੀਵਦੈ ॥੧॥ The King, while still alive, applied the ceremonial mark to his forehead. ||1||
ਲਹਣੇ ਦੀ ਫੇਰਾਈਐ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਦੋਹੀ ਖਟੀਐ ॥Nanak proclaimed Lehna's succession - he earned it.
ਜੋਤਿ ਓਹਾ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਸਾਇ ਸਹਿ ਕਾਇਆ ਫੇਰਿ ਪਲਟੀਐ ॥ They shared the One Light and the same way; the King just changed His body.
ਝੁਲੈ ਸੁ ਛਤੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੀ ਮਲਿ ਤਖਤੁ ਬੈਠਾ ਗੁਰ ਹਟੀਐ ॥The immaculate canopy waves over Him, and He sits on the throne in the Guru's shop.
ਕਰਹਿ ਜਿ ਗੁਰ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਆ ਸਿਲ ਜੋਗੁ ਅਲੂਣੀ ਚਟੀਐ ॥ He does as the Guru commands; He tasted the tasteless stone of Yoga.
ਲੰਗਰੁ ਚਲੈ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦਿ ਹਰਿ ਤੋਟਿ ਨ ਆਵੀ ਖਟੀਐ ॥The Langar - the Kitchen of the Guru's Shabad has been opened, and its supplies never run short.
ਖਰਚੇ ਦਿਤਿ ਖਸੰਮ ਦੀ ਆਪ ਖਹਦੀ ਖੈਰਿ ਦਬਟੀਐ ॥ Whatever His Master gave, He spent; He distributed it all to be eaten.
ਹੋਵੈ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਖਸੰਮ ਦੀ ਨੂਰੁ ਅਰਸਹੁ ਕੁਰਸਹੁ ਝਟੀਐ ॥ The Praises of the Master were sung, and the Divine Light descended from the heavens to the earth.ਤੁਧੁ ਡਿਠੇ ਸਚੇ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ਮਲੁ ਜਨਮ ਜਨਮ ਦੀ ਕਟੀਐ ॥ Gazing upon You, O True King, the filth of countless past lives is washed away.
ਸਚੁ ਜਿ ਗੁਰਿ ਫੁਰਮਾਇਆ ਕਿਉ ਏਦੂ ਬੋਲਹੁ ਹਟੀਐ ॥ The Guru gave the True Command; why should we hesitate to proclaim this?
ਪੁਤ੍ਰੀ ਕਉਲੁ ਨ ਪਾਲਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਪੀਰਹੁ ਕੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਮੁਰਟੀਐ ॥ His sons did not obey His Word; they turned their backs on Him as Guru.
ਦਿਲਿ ਖੋਟੈ ਆਕੀ ਫਿਰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਬੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਭਾਰੁ ਉਚਾਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਿ ਛਟੀਐ ॥ These evil-hearted ones became rebellious; they carry loads of sin on their backs.
ਜਿਨਿ ਆਖੀ ਸੋਈ ਕਰੇ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਤੀ ਤਿਨੈ ਥਟੀਐ ॥ Whatever the Guru said, Lehna did, and so he was installed on the throne.
ਕਉਣੁ ਹਾਰੇ ਕਿਨਿ ਉਵਟੀਐ ॥੨॥ Who has lost, and who has won? ||2||

ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੋ ਮੰਨਣਾ ਕੋ ਸਾਲੁ ਜਿਵਾਹੇ ਸਾਲੀ ॥ He who did the work, is accepted as Guru; so which is better - the thistle or the rice?

Guru Granth Says : Guru Nanaks sons did not obey His Word; they turned their backs on Him as Guru.

Should we respect these yogis, if they do not accept Sikhi?

Who made up the mantra Guru Guru Waheguru Guru Ram Das Guru????? It's not even legit yet they invite non Sikhs to mislead them to think i and all Sikhs are dumb enough to follow Yogi Harbhajan puri manmat mantras. They just replaced koombiya with a manmat mantra "for peace".

They always use the "Raj jog takhat deean Guru Ramdas" as their way to justify Siri Chand.

Taranjit Singh writes:

"Gurbani clearly rejects Janga, Yogi, Snakeman practices. Read following bani completely too:

ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥Salok mėhlā 1.

ਸਿਰੁ ਖੋਹਾਇ ਪੀਅਹਿ ਮਲਵਾਣੀ ਜੂਠਾ ਮੰਗਿ ਮੰਗਿ ਖਾਹੀ ॥ They pluck the hair out of their heads, and drink in filthy water; they beg endlessly and eat the garbage which others have thrown away.ਫੋਲਿ ਫਦੀਹਤਿ ਮੁਹਿ ਲੈਨਿ ਭੜਾਸਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਦੇਖਿ ਸਗਾਹੀ ॥ They spread manure, they suck in rotting smells, and they are afraid of clean water.

ਭੇਡਾ ਵਾਗੀ ਸਿਰੁ ਖੋਹਾਇਨਿ ਭਰੀਅਨਿ ਹਥ ਸੁਆਹੀ ॥ Their hands are smeared with ashes, and the hair on their heads is plucked out-they are like sheep!ਮਾਊ ਪੀਊ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਗਵਾਇਨਿ ਟਬਰ ਰੋਵਨਿ ਧਾਹੀ ॥ They have renounced the lifestyle of their mothers and fathers, and their families and relatives cry out in distress.

ਓਨਾ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਨ ਪਤਲਿ ਕਿਰਿਆ ਨ ਦੀਵਾ ਮੁਏ ਕਿਥਾਊ ਪਾਹੀ ॥ No one offers the rice dishes at their last rites, and no one lights the lamps for them. After their death, where will they be sent?

ਅਠਸਠਿ ਤੀਰਥ ਦੇਨਿ ਨ ਢੋਈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ ਅੰਨੁ ਨ ਖਾਹੀ ॥ The sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage give them no place of protection, and no Brahmin will eat their food.

ਸਦਾ ਕੁਚੀਲ ਰਹਹਿ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤੀ ਮਥੈ ਟਿਕੇ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ They remain polluted forever, day and night; they do not apply the ceremonial tilak mark to their foreheads.

ਝੁੰਡੀ ਪਾਇ ਬਹਨਿ ਨਿਤਿ ਮਰਣੈ ਦੜਿ ਦੀਬਾਣਿ ਨ ਜਾਹੀ ॥ They sit together in silence, as if in mourning; they do not go to the Lord's Court.

ਲਕੀ ਕਾਸੇ ਹਥੀ ਫੁੰਮਣ ਅਗੋ ਪਿਛੀ ਜਾਹੀ ॥ With their begging bowls hanging from their waists, and their fly-brushes in their hands, they walk along in single file.

ਨਾ ਓਇ ਜੋਗੀ ਨਾ ਓਇ ਜੰਗਮ ਨਾ ਓਇ ਕਾਜੀ ਮੁੰਲਾ ॥ They are not Yogis, and they are not Jangams, followers of Shiva. They are not Qazis or Mullahs.

ਦਯਿ ਵਿਗੋਏ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਵਿਗੁਤੇ ਫਿਟਾ ਵਤੈ ਗਲਾ ॥ Ruined by the Merciful Lord, they wander around in disgrace, and their entire troop is contaminated.

ਜੀਆ ਮਾਰਿ ਜੀਵਾਲੇ ਸੋਈ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਰਖੈ ॥ The Lord alone kills and restores to life; no one else can protect anyone from Him.

ਦਾਨਹੁ ਤੈ ਇਸਨਾਨਹੁ ਵੰਜੇ ਭਸੁ ਪਈ ਸਿਰਿ ਖੁਥੈ ॥ They go without giving alms or any cleansing baths; their shaven heads become covered with dust."

This painting of Yogi Bhajan controlling theTantric shakti power has no place in the Darbar of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib! or at any Sikh wedding.The Sikh Gurus condemned these Tantrics as atheists, epicureans and called them Shaktas, the perverts. Gurumustuk of Sikhnet shot this photo which is in perfect focus with the wedding couple and the Yogi Bhajan painting. Gurumustuk is a Yogi Bhajan follower who has a hidden agenda to promote these tantric practices of Yogi Bhajan.

Write Sikhnet and ask them to remove this painting of Yogi Bhajan from the 3HO Espanola Gurdwara. Ask 3HO Sikhs to stop these antiSikh activities such as idol worship. Ask 3HO Sikhs to remove paintings of Hindu gods and goddesses from the Espanola Gurdwara.

Inform them as our Sikh brothers and sisters that we should only have Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji present at a Sikh Anand Karaj. http://www.sikhnet.com/contact

Taranjit Singh further appreciates and writes to Ajmer Singh Randhawa as;

"Thanks Singh Sahib. Actually problem of these so called yogi is they just read bani to find kundilini, yoga and raj yoga words. and start their monkey act. It is clearly mentioned that whats the meaning of yoga in Gurbani. Either they are dumbo and can not understand bani or they are very clever and misquote bani for their business gain. Yesterday one lady told me that they charge $500 per student for three days yoga class. So its their business not religion and they are selling their product in the rapper of Gurbani. Very shameful act."

Pratam Singh Sukhmani kaur :

1) Mool mantar is a mantar to clear the mind in order to absorb bani. It's not a magic trick, it's a practical way to get away from our usual worldly talk.

2) Gurmantar is guru sahibs prescribed medicine for the mind. Guruji is the physician and we must take his remedy to kill the Panj dhoots from our mind. Now chanting Vahiguroo without vichaar of the naam is as u say "mechanically repeating", we must be blessed with Gurprasad to witness the fruits of our raj jog etc so chanting Vahiguroo naam while not doing vichaar simultaneously is like chewing food and spitting it out without swallowing it.

3) Gurbani is vast it's like comparing your house with the whole world, although u know every inch of yer house u don't know much of anything around the far corners of the earth and u must go on quests in order to discover what u don't know, then also just because u walk for miles doesn't mean u studied each mile u walked. In other words per mile u walked means u didn't study the whole square mile, in order to study one square mile means u must walk it multiple times going over 6-7+ miles worth of walking. Same as reciting things u think u know might eventually get u to discover all the species of that area. In example: you know not to lie, you know only truth is real, yet you still lie, u teach your kids not to lie yet u still lie, u know not to cheat yet to make things easier to achieve means u cheat, it's a simple concept yet we are too stupid to grasp to goal of accomplishing the simple steps. We need to constantly remind ourselves how stupid we are (jap tap sanjum dharam na kamaeea..,,,,,) for not "baking the cake properly" because we always skip a step but want the perfect outcome etc. Just the same as warning signs, although we know not to put our hand in a machine (because it will get smashed/cut etc) we still post signs around and yet still someone smashes their hand. Reciting things over and over is our warning sign or reminder to even subliminally follow our Guruji. Repetitive actions or reciting makes it easier for u to merge into that idea or action. The more u recite gurbani the easier it is for u to extract the message, when u got gurbani kanth u can extract the message before even hearing the whole shabad etc hukamnamey are a good example of having heard something before but needing to manifest the message in yer mind at that exact moment. This is a really deep philosophy and cannot be easily explained with redundancy and that's y some shabads are the same be explained in a number of different ways.’

My point is the subconscious mind is pummeled by worldly filth and only the true Gursikhs will recognize and cleanse that aspect of the body/soul. The rest of humans will be too caught up in the physical body to even understand the concept of antarjami. "
Pritam Singh Sukhmani Kaur blames 3 ho;

Yep 3ho also sells $5 karas for $90 because they carved Gurbani on it.
Sukhmandir Kaur replies;

In 3HO no one charges for reading Gurbani. Akhand paaths are done completely for free. I never heard of charging for Akhand paath until I met Punjabi Sikhs and never realized that it is a business. I was shocked that anyone would take money for reading Guru Granth Sahib. In 3HO people who want to participate in paath take turns reading. Usually they start out with doing unbroken paath from 8 volume steeks. Some people read English translation and others read Gurmukhi who can.

There is a group of premee pathee I read with and we did like this until we could all read Gurbani and then began reading proper AKhand path from Guru Granth Sahib. It took us 70 hours on our first attempt with our core group of four and a couple of others to help. Since then we read in many Akhand Paaths and Sejh from Guru Granth Sahib entirely for free. We still encourage those who cannot read Gurbani to read in English as a starting point but never take money for this!!! I've lost rack now of how many Sidharan paths completed on my own from Guru Granth Sahib, this is due to learning and practicing while in #HO and to a dedicated path teacher who stook over me countless times for countless hours correcting my mistakes who launched me on my first sejh paath. He was A singh of Punjabi origin from UK whose father was a Punjabi teacher but never taught him to speak Punjabi only English and he had to learn to read Gurbani from other Singhs. He was very kind to me and I learned with great difficulty and persevere. I am forever grateful to have learned Gurbani and paath absolutely for free while with 3HO and from a dedicated sevadar of Khalsa paanth.

So yoga is a way of breaking with the influence of world. Some people who do Kundalini yoga engage with Sikhism and some do not. Some are interested in Sikhism and others are not. Sikhism and Kundalini Yoga are separate. I had someone ask me once what does Kundalini believe? HUH? I told can't answer that, Kundalini is not a belief its an exercise, I am a Sikh and I believe as a Sikh, I can only share my Sikh belief which has nothing to do with Kundalini.

Sikhnet always raises tons of money I think the embezzle from it. Even if they "aren't" a commercial site they advertise for commercial websites, companies and individuals (so no I didn't kill the guy but I paid someone to kill him etc.) I see some akhand paath issues as a catch 22 for a few reasons:

If it's free then you'll get everyone requesting one at their house forcing the granthi to flat out say NO because of demand.

2) it shouldn't cost X amount of dollars to do akhand paat, it should be a donation not a "price".

3) 3ho makes tons of money selling yoga so they can do "seva" of akhand paat so they don't look too greedy. When the do yoga for free then I'll care that they don't charge for paath.

When I would ask questions of Guru Granth paath the Gurduara decided to give me Maharaj seva at home for free and were surprised I came back with a large donation they didn't even want it but I insisted to donate it to the Gurduara funds etc. I'm not quick enough to read akhand paath so I do my own sahej paath until I can read quick enough. I don't believe in selling paath but it's not easy dropping what yer doing to do a paath at someones house so I can see the donation as being a way to get two birds with one stone so to speak, if we all learn to read Gurbani then these problems won't be an issue but some can't read and want a paath done when they request so finding people to do it free would be hard to find (with peoples busy schedules etc)

This is a good issue that the jathedars brought up. Kundalini is a belief. Kundalini is a noun. The chakra system is a way to make this kundalini rise from the lower chakra etc (basically it's load of crap) I'd rather pretend if I talk to big bird that Elmo will rise from some chakra :

I bet she associated kundalini with being a Hindu sect U could have said a lot of nonsense from 3ho like:

“REVOLVE YOUR LIFE AROUND SUMMER AND WINTER SOLSTICE AND EVERYTHING WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.” YOGI BHAJAN”.

He is basically saying care about the retarded placement of the sun and it won't matter if yer an idiot following my manmat.

SimranKaur Khalsa : This is one of the greatest meditations you can practice. It has considerable transformational powers. The personal identity is rebuilt, giving the individual a new perspective on the Self. It retrains the mind. According to the tantra shastras, it can purify your past karma and the subconscious impulses that may block you from fulfilling you. It balances all the 27 facets of life and mental projection, and gives you the pranic power of health and healing. It establishes inner happiness and a state of flow and ecstasy in life. It opens your inner universe to relate, co-create, and complete the external universe.

This meditation balances the Teacher aspect of the mind. It acts on all the other aspects like a mirror to reveal their true nature and adds corrections. You act as a human being not just a human doing. If the Teacher aspect is too strong, you risk a spiritual ego, which becomes too attached to the ability to detach and to be “above” normal struggles. When the Teacher aspect is too weak, you can mis- use your spiritual and teaching position for personal advantage.

“Of all the 20 types of yoga, including Kundalini Yoga, this is the highest Kriya. This meditation cuts through all darkness. It will give you a new start. It is the simplest kriya, but at the same time the hardest. It cuts through all barriers of the neurotic or psychotic inside-nature. When a person in a very bad state, techniques imposed from the outside will not work. The pressure has to be stimu- lated from within. The tragedy of life is when the subconscious releases garbage into the conscious mind. This kriya invokes the Kundalini to give you the necessary vitality and intuition to combat the negative effects of the subconscious mind. There is no time, no place, no space, and no condition attached to this mantra. Each garbage point has its own time to clear. If you are going to clean your own garbage, you must estimate and clean it as fast as you can, or as slow as you want. Start practicing slow- ly—the slower the better. Start with five minutes a day, and gradually build the time to either 31 or 62 minutes. Maximum time is 2-1/2 hours for practice of this meditation.” - YOGIBHAJAN

"There is nothing knowm as kundalini. If would had been there. Y there r so many blasts and other sort of things going on you can't these people stop these things. The people who claim kundalini being jagrut in them can not even predict their own future. These are just the tricks of these guys to attract more people as people in India r fools to hear and follow them, but a Gursikh will never ever give any importance to the fool yogis. Cause naam is every thing... if u like yoga, go for it but don’t bring Gurbani or Guru Sahiban into this nonsense because if yoga was a part of our guru sahib's life or philosophy, i m sure they would have written some literature on it, or had Gotten a Singh to write it but that never happened...gatka is popular, Gurbani is our way of life but yoga??????????? this is being forced on us...mind u i m not against yoga, the exercise but PLEASE FOR GOD'S SAKE GRAB A LIFE; DONT RELATE IT TO GURU SAHIBAN"

I came to the Guru, to learn the Way of Yoga.

ਮੋ ਕਉ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਬਦਿ ਬੁਝਾਇਓ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
The True Guru has revealed it to me through the Word of the Shabad. ||1||Pause||

ਨਉ ਖੰਡ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੀ ਇਸੁ ਤਨ ਮਹਿ ਰਵਿਆ ਨਿਮਖ ਨਿਮਖ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਾ ॥
He is contained in the nine continents of the world, and within this body; each and every moment, I humbly bow to Him.

ਦੀਖਿਆ ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਾ ਕਾਨੀ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਿਓ ਏਕੁ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੧॥
I have made the Guru's Teachings my ear-rings, and I have enshrined the One Formless Lord within my being. ||1||

ਪੰਚ ਚੇਲੇ ਮਿਲਿ ਭਏ ਇਕਤ੍ਰਾ ਏਕਸੁ ਕੈ ਵਸਿ ਕੀਏ ॥
I have brought the five disciples together, and they are now under the control of the one mind.
ਦਸ ਬੈਰਾਗਨਿ ਆਗਿਆਕਾਰੀ ਤਬ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਜੋਗੀ ਥੀਏ ॥੨॥
When the ten hermits become obedient to the Lord, then I became an immaculate Yogi. ||2||
ਭਰਮੁ ਜਰਾਇ ਚਰਾਈ ਬਿਭੂਤਾ ਪੰਥੁ ਏਕੁ ਕਰਿ ਪੇਖਿਆ ॥
I have burnt my doubt, and smeared my body with the ashes. My path is to see the One and Only Lord.

ਸਹਜ ਸੂਖ ਸੋ ਕੀਨੀ ਭੁਗਤਾ ਜੋ ਠਾਕੁਰਿ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲੇਖਿਆ ॥੩॥
I have made that intuitive peace my food; the Lord Master has written this pre-ordained destiny upon my forehead. ||3||

ਜਹ ਭਉ ਨਾਹੀ ਤਹਾ ਆਸਨੁ ਬਾਧਿਓ ਸਿੰਗੀ ਅਨਹਤ ਬਾਨੀ ॥
In that place where there is no fear, I have assumed my Yogic posture. The unstruck melody of His Bani is my horn.

ਤਤੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ਡੰਡਾ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖਿਓ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਨੀ ॥੪॥
I have made contemplation upon the essential reality my Yogic staff. The Love of the Name in my mind is my Yogic lifestyle. ||4||

ਐਸਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਭੇਟੈ ਮਾਇਆ ਕੇ ਬੰਧਨ ਕਾਟੈ ॥
By great good fortune, such a Yogi is met, who cuts away the bonds of Maya.
ਸੇਵਾ ਪੂਜ ਕਰਉ ਤਿਸੁ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਕੀ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਤਿਸੁ ਪਗ ਚਾਟੈ ॥੫॥੧੧॥੧੩੨॥
Nanak serves and adores this wondrous person, and kisses his feet. ||5||11||132|

If people did yoga there wouldn't be some secret oral history of this garbage yoga rhetoric.
I can't see y people try to pass off this yoga as Sikhi. If Gurusahiban did yoga the they would have been totally known as yoga and they would have promoted yoga in simple words saying "do yoga" but that's not the case. Guruji didn't want to disrespect all the people who spent their entire life hoping yoga will work so he used them as a reference.

Sikhi is naam not yoga, yoga doesn't make u understand naam due to some Vedic science.

Guruji referred to yogis for their dedication level but he always teaches the Sikh to put that dedication towards Simran naam vichaar.

People are trying to get people to feel guilty that they arent soon yoga so people lie to get u to abandon Sikhi and put yer faith in lame yoga.

All the attacks at Sikhi are lies withers changing history, twisting gurbani or bribing people with being a leader. (all these yoga teachers feel this power, all these dera babey feel the power, all these people all are nothing if they aren't misleading people as a teacher)

Read Gurbani stating a true Gurmukh is rare, all this yoga stuff claims they can make millions of clones, and they arent Gurmukh.

Gurbani isn't a rulebook, it is a guide.

The division of Sikhs is the infiltration of these yoga robots that ignore gurbani yet claim to be absorbed in it's message.

I could go on and on but it is ALWAYS ignored because it completely damages the 3ho protocol.

U might "need" yoga because u can't extract the message of simple shabads and the description manmat of the asana and false meditations is yer only way to have access to information u are seeking to discover.

How come I don't need yoga but u do????

Yer yoga rhetoric is like saying u can't run or jog to get a heart rate and that u must do cheerleader aerobics wearing a spandex suit listening to "maniac" by Michael sembello;

Now I equate yer yoga while adoring gurbani as fighting and hurting someone while donating bone marrow to them afterwards. If it contradicts then it doesn't make much sense.
Read the shabad i posted. It's simple and its one of many that 3ho will not teach it's paid students.

Gay wedding ;

Yogi Bhajan’s 3HO Sikhs participate in this gay wedding. Decide for yourself if the Tantric yoga Yogi Bhajan taught his students is damaging or not. “Moreover this gay sikh is relative of Grand-nephew of Yogi Bhajan (Master of Kundalini Yoga). They (3HO people ) are making Gora people sikhs.. how they can teach them basic principals of Sikhi when the are disrespecting Sikhi.”

Gay Wedding offends Sikh Sentiments! Sikhi rejects Homosexuality; it is unnatural and is seen as offensive behaviour towards God. God has made man for women, this is the laws of nature. So why does a So-called Sikh wear his kara, dastar and kirpan and marry another man. This is taking the mick out of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s uniform.

Poet Warrior’s Note: If you are a real Sikh you will never present yourself in public looking like this. In fact, true Sikhs are duty bound to emulate the Lord Of The Falcons at all times, and thus must always be in the utmost presentable form when present in public. A Sikh in public is representing not only himself or herself but the entire Sikh Nation.

In the above picture, you will see how jazzy normally looks, why couldn’t he have just got married like that?

If the Panth can’t get a letter of apology from jazzy, we got no honour left!
If Gurbani was recited, we should get an apology from the peopleresponsible too, its only right!

Where are all the Sikh organizations, no point doing parchaar if you are not going to attack this great disrespect of the Sikh uniform and Gurbani. Someone please do something, on a diplomatic level. If we don’t do something we will see a Gay wedding in a Gurdwara, or in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib JI. Do nothing then, Nothing changes!

source:

http://frontlinepunjabiyouth.blogspot.com/2007/12/gay-wedding-offends-sikh-sentiments.html

http://www.sikharchives.com/?p=7468

Yoga class by Yogi Bhajan.
ਸੂਹੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ਘਰੁ ੭
ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਖਿੰਥਾ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਡੰਡੈ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਭਸਮ ਚੜਾਈਐ ॥ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਮੁੰਦੀ ਮੂੰਡਿ ਮੁਡਾਇਐ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਸਿੰਙੀ ਵਾਈਐ ॥ ਅੰਜਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਨਿਰੰਜਨਿ ਰਹੀਐ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਇਵ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਗਲੀ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥ ਏਕ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕਰਿ ਸਮਸਰਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਜੋਗੀ ਕਹੀਐ ਸੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਮੜੀ ਮਸਾਣੀ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਤਾੜੀ ਲਾਈਐ ॥ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਦੇਸਿ ਦਿਸੰਤਰਿ ਭਵਿਐ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਤੀਰਥਿ ਨਾਈਐ ॥ ਅੰਜਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਨਿਰੰਜਨਿ ਰਹੀਐ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਇਵ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੨॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟੈ ਤਾ ਸਹਸਾ ਤੂਟੈ ਧਾਵਤੁ ਵਰਜਿ ਰਹਾਈਐ ॥ ਨਿਝਰੁ ਝਰੈ ਸਹਜ ਧੁਨਿ ਲਾਗੈ ਘਰ ਹੀ ਪਰਚਾ ਪਾਈਐ ॥ ਅੰਜਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਨਿਰੰਜਨਿ ਰਹੀਐ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਇਵ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੩॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਜੀਵਤਿਆ ਮਰਿ ਰਹੀਐ ਐਸਾ ਜੋਗੁ ਕਮਾਈਐ ॥ ਵਾਜੇ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਸਿੰਙੀ ਵਾਜੈ ਤਉ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਈਐ ॥ ਅੰਜਨ ਮਾਹਿ ਨਿਰੰਜਨਿ ਰਹੀਐ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਤਉ ਪਾਈਐ ॥੪॥੧॥੮॥

Soohee, First Mehl, Seventh House:

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:Yoga is not the patched coat, Yoga is not the walking stick. Yoga is not smearing the body with ashes.Yoga is not the ear-rings, and not the shaven head. Yoga is not the blowing of the horn.Remaining unblemished in the midst of the filth of the world - this is the way to attain Yoga. ||1||By mere words, Yoga is not attained.One who looks upon all with a single eye, and knows them to be one and the same - he alone is known as a Yogi. ||1||Pause||Yoga is not wandering to the tombs of the dead; Yoga is not sitting in trances.Yoga is not wandering through foreign lands; Yoga is not bathing at sacred shrines of pilgrimage.Remaining unblemished in the midst of the filth of the world - this is the way to attain Yoga. ||2||Meeting with the True Guru, doubt is dispelled, and the wandering mind is restrained.Nectar rains down, celestial music resounds, and deep within, wisdom is obtained.Remaining unblemished in the midst of the filth of the world - this is the way to attain Yoga. ||3||O Nanak, remain dead while yet alive - practice such a Yoga. When the horn is blown without being blown, then you shall attain the state of fearless dignity. remaining unblemished in the midst of the filth of the world - this is the way to attain Yoga. ||4||1||8||

In the end a letter before I conclude here;

Pritam Singh Sukhmani Kaur December 25.2010

Gurfateh ji,

Most of it is garbage rhetoric. Don't listen to anything they say. Keep this as a record because they all say the same thing verbatim. When I talk to Gursant Singh on the phone we normally talk for a minimum of 1hour so all this is difficult to fully explain by typing etc:

1) Harbhajan puri came to USA to make money.

2) he needed a job that made him do nothing and gain power so he saw stupid hippies that do drugs would fall for his hippy yoga. The band called the beatles went to India and did all the yoga crap so he thought he'd give it a try. Yoga has a guru and students so he made himself the guru and started collecting idiots till modern day. He did sex yoga stuff with women and that's y a lot of women are so defensive to protect him.

3) he totally twisted Sikhi so their version of Sikhi doesn't sound like manmat because he raised them to think it's normal, he used dera tactics.

4) go to rickross.com he has lots of info like Gursant singh has about harbhjan puri like court affidavits that yogi puri raped people and stole and lots of other crimes. I think he paid people off to not prosecute him etc

5) since he died he can't hide the corruption further, he promoted gays, he twisted gurbani to brainwash with yoga, he made money by crimes, he manipulated all the yoga students and those who left weren't stupid to fall for his power ego etc....

I could go on forever. They try to manipulate u by yogi puri tactics, they blends lies with some truth and they try to relate to u with some truth but feed u lies to get what they want. What do they want?? They want u to stop exposing yoga, they want u to pretend yoga is just their way of Sikhi. Sikhi is Sikhi Gurmat is Gurmat. Yoga isn't a Sikh practice and they want to take over Sikhi by introducing yoga as another Sikh practice.

I could get deeper into this issue if u ask me specific questions if I haven't been thorough enough by my brief message.

Wahiguroo ji.

Written by,

Ajmer Singh Randhawa

White Sikh sect - 3ho

Saturday, December 25, 2010

White Sikh sect - 3ho

Picture of Mariam Mary in Sikh insignia-Khanda

This painting was evidently a gift from Yogi Bhajan’s followers to a newly married couple as shown in this video: